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anyone take a stab at what the ATKID. written on the envelope stands for?

anyone take a stab at what the ATKID. written on the envelope stands for?

Yes it’s the FBI abbrev for the case ATlanta KIDnappings – AT / KID. Oh and it’s not a stab, it’s in the FBI files. It’s their filing system basically, yup, write on the evidence, that’s the way to do it. lol.

EDIT: Actually that’s not correct. The ATKID is written outside the edge of the envelope between the punch holes which I think is the backing car inside the cellophane cover. I think.

The 3-8’s like in his my name cipher, from 1970 .
March 8th =3-8 ?

Oddly enough, my stalker has called me and said: “Hello, it’s me”. He has never told me he is Zodiac, only clues to being Zodiac.

One of his license plates was “GA Rebel”.

I do know that his hands shake , that is partly why the writing in this note looks closer to the Ramsey note than the known Zodiac writing.
Making people wonder if it is him or not , is part of his taunting game. I wouldn’t discount this letter yet.

http://books.google.dk/books?id=xR-ZOns … es&f=false

Atlanta Child Murders – Wayne Williams FBI Files
Af BACM Research

I don’t know if this has been mentioned before (it probably has) but having just re-reading over from the Cheri Jo Bates letters, I found one part that sticks out to me. I know neither are confirmed letters but I find it interesting that in this letter, the author says that he ‘used to stalk women’ and in the Bates letter, the author gives a very long account of his stalkings and finishes by saying ‘Beware, I am stalking your girls now."

Not that this is a tell tale anything, but it is interesting and a connection to perhaps other writings.

In this ‘Hello It’s Me’ Letter the writer (Zodiac? I believe it is plausible) said:

“ At all my victims bodies I have left certain clues, but I guess it`s too much for you rebels to handle”

I really wish it was possible to find out exactly what those clues was !!!

Anyone know? or have connections to find out?

In this ‘Hello It’s Me’ Letter the writer (Zodiac? I believe it is plausible) said:

“ At all my victims bodies I have left certain clues, but I guess it`s too much for you rebels to handle”

I really wish it was possible to find out exactly what those clues was !!!

Anyone know? or have connections to find out?

Not sure. If he was lying, he may not have left any clues at all. He seems to be taking credit for the Atlanta Child murders, so any of the evidence found on their bodies may be detailed in reports about the Victims, the case, and Wayne WIlliams, who was convicted for some of the killings. Here are a couple links about the case:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_kill … dex_1.html

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/fe … ld-murders

And Zodiac files relating to the Atlanta Child Murders-
http://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=zodiac

In my opinion the letter is not from the Zodiac. I base this claim on the following observations:

The word "Rebels" seems strange for Z in this context. Z is known to taunt law enforcement. Rebels seems odd.

"Pick off" is in quotations. In other words, the writer quotes Z. If you refer to your own writing one does not generally use quotations.

The mention of using another handwriting is telling. Z. has a urge to give proof he is who he says he is by giving clues, wording and handwriting. The fact the writer claims to be Zodiac should not be enough to prove he actually is. Zodiac would enclose some piece of evidence (i.e. piece of clothing from a victim or a clue only known to him and the police) in order to be taken serious. The lack of any evidence is telling. The only other way z could show he is who he is, is nu his handwriting.

We should not forget the claims made in this letter are significant. If Z’s It would cause tremendous fear considering he plans to target children. I believe children were never viewed as real targets by Z. The only purpose of the busbomb was to have a city in suspense. Not providing sufficient evidence that he is the writer negates this effect.

Any thoughts?

I was looking over the JonBenet ransom letters and noticed that the scribbly writing is quite similar to that of the "Hello it’s me" letter. Perhaps this is just because both letters are written with the other hand. Both letters start off being very scribbly and then better throughout as the writer becomes more proficient writing with the other hand.

I was looking over the JonBenet ransom letters and noticed that the scribbly writing is quite similar to that of the "Hello it’s me" letter. Perhaps this is just because both letters are written with the other hand. Both letters start off being very scribbly and then better throughout as the writer becomes more proficient writing with the other hand.

Thank you for showing the comparisons. The first time I saw the "3" page note, the writing jumped out at me.
Then I noticed the clue to the Dirty Harry movie which was about Zodiac.

I watched the different videos showing Jon Benet singing. In one of them I saw a couple of men in the back ground doing some construction work at the top of the stairs. One of those men stopped and turned around to watch her. It did not show his face , it was from the chest down. It gave me a creepy feeling that he could be her killer?

Again my suspect who I call Honcho, was a construction worker and all the Zodiac crimes had construction going on very close to each crime including RCC and Lompoc highschool. The only one that I couldn’t connect any construction close by was Lake Berryessa. Even Jackson st Oct 69 had some renovations.

In my opinion the letter is not from the Zodiac. I base this claim on the following observations:

The word "Rebels" seems strange for Z in this context. Z is known to taunt law enforcement. Rebels seems odd.

"Pick off" is in quotations. In other words, the writer quotes Z. If you refer to your own writing one does not generally use quotations.

The mention of using another handwriting is telling. Z. has a urge to give proof he is who he says he is by giving clues, wording and handwriting. The fact the writer claims to be Zodiac should not be enough to prove he actually is. Zodiac would enclose some piece of evidence (i.e. piece of clothing from a victim or a clue only known to him and the police) in order to be taken serious. The lack of any evidence is telling. The only other way z could show he is who he is, is nu his handwriting.

We should not forget the claims made in this letter are significant. If Z’s It would cause tremendous fear considering he plans to target children. I believe children were never viewed as real targets by Z. The only purpose of the busbomb was to have a city in suspense. Not providing sufficient evidence that he is the writer negates this effect.

Any thoughts?

Not doubting your insightful thoughts at all. But I wonder if the time frame matters. Back when the letter came in, the only access a stranger would have about the zodiac case would be the occasional story in the newspaper or on the local news. Today, we can pull up old letters and spent hours reading/researching the case thanks to the Internet. But back in the 1970s, it was an entirely different world and the amount of information was pretty scare compared to today.

This may be nothing , but one of the license plate numbers I have on my Honcho suspect was "GA Rebel", it was on a small red Toyota pick up. He didn’t know that I spotted him in that truck hiding behind a building .
He was parked there so he could watch me go to the donut shop , why that was important for him to do I have no idea? That was back in the early 90’s.

I phoned Darlene’s sister Pam to let her know what he was driving that day, to give her a heads up being he was also stalking her.

I was on my way to the donut shop that morning when I spotted him. So I went around the block to get behind him. I got out of my car to get close enough to get that plate number. I have a picture of him driving that truck on another day 50 miles away from the area I got that plate, I saw him twice in that truck. That could be a good plate, most were stolen plates. But being he was hiding at that time, he did not want me to see that plate, which tells me it could be traced to him?

The Its me note reminded me of when he would call, he never said he was the Zodiac, he would say "Hello its me", or "This is your secret admirer". I have noticed that his hands are very shaky and the: "It’s Me" note may or my not be from Zodiac. When he would call Darlene’s sister Pam, he would tell her he was the Zodiac.

I believe that Bryan Hartnell noticed the killers hands were shaky in 1969? If it something like Parkinson’s it only gets worse as he ages. Something to think about?

The "d" in the Zodiac at the bottom of the letter is dead on.

The "d" in the Zodiac at the bottom of the letter is dead on.

So is the check mark r , three stroke k, candy cane f. The spacing is way off though. That "Hello its me" , made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, because that is what my stalker says to me when he calls.( He claims to be Zodiac.)

He is probably telling the truth about killing some of the young boys and leaving clues. Someone in the 80’s and 90’s was killing prostitutes ( No one is easier than them to kill ) He directed the police by phoning them, to tell them where he put a body. He then told them he killed all of the victims there and the topper to that ,was he said he was the Zodiac.

I studied those CCC murders and found out the killer was leaving notes with the bodies. One note said :I killed the bitch, because she gave me aids. He was leaving clues by those bodies and if he is also the killer of some of the Atlanta murders, he could be the same person who killed all of the girls and one male in Contra Costa County during the 80’s and 90’s.
His writing has probably changed over the years and if he has Parkinson’s, then that would explain why his hands shake so much now.